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Posted by Deren Smith on 03 Jun 2004 - 00:57 | 90 comments
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Microsoft has been granted a patent on the double-click by the US Patents and Trademark Office. The patent, number 6,727,830, was granted on April 27. An abstract of the application says: "A method and system are provided for extending the functionality of application buttons on a limited resource computing device. Alternative application functions are launched based on the length of time an application button is pressed. A default function for an application is launched if the button is pressed for a short, i.e., normal, period of time.

"An alternative function of the application is launched if the button is pressed for a long, (e.g., at least one second), period of time. Still another function can be launched if the application button is pressed multiple times within a short period of time, e.g., double click." The inventors have been cited as Charlton E. Lui and Jeffrey R. Blum and the assignee is Microsoft Corporation. The field of the invention "relates generally to computer systems, and more particularly to increasing the functionality of application buttons on a limited resource computing device", the patent application says.

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#1 Posted by Tom Servo on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:02  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
ROFL.

Um yeah.

#2 Posted by Fonze on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:03  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
ohhhh snap!

#3 Posted by Confuser on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:05(4 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Is that means Apple and Linux (+more OSes) will have to give money to Microsoft?

 
#3.1 Reply by markjensen on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:15 Quote this comment
Nah. Time for the Linux coders to make it a triple-click.

Except...

How do you get to three clicks without first passing through two? Crap! Foiled by this patent! lol

#3.2 Reply by MadDog on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:43 Quote this comment
"Still another function can be launched if the application button is pressed multiple times within a short period of time"

Multiple... as in more than one. That would include three.

#3.3 Reply by dismuter on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:45 Quote this comment
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application button is pressed multiple times within a short period of time


Triple-click is also patented, as well as quadruple-click and so on

#3.4 Reply by FuhrerDarqueSyde on 03 Jun 2004 - 04:02 Quote this comment
watch SCO try to patent Multi-Click to screw over Linux and Microsoft

 
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#4 Posted by macster on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:05(1 reply)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
I hope this will not turn into another patent lawsuit...

 
#4.1 Reply by AquaDex on 03 Jun 2004 - 05:00 Quote this comment
Im sure it will when Microshaft begin annoying other OS developers with this patent

 
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#5 Posted by Huezo on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:07  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
WTF?

#6 Posted by o83zero on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:10(8 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Right, Bill Gates has enough $$$ to pay every Microsoft employee's retirement, and he feels the need for MORE money. This is why I will never pay a single DOLLAR for MS software.

 
#6.1 Reply by Fowen on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:33 Quote this comment
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Right, Bill Gates has enough $$$ to pay every Microsoft employee's retirement, and he feels the need for MORE money. This is why I will never pay a single DOLLAR for MS software.

sooo just because he has money, he should just give everything away for free?!

#6.2 Reply by +StOrM on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:57 Quote this comment
So you pirate the software then?

#6.3 Reply by o83zero on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:00 Quote this comment
Pirate software? Me? Naaaaw...

#6.4 Reply by Cara on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:09 Quote this comment
Glad to hear you don't, I'd hate to think we have someone pirating software on Neowin and then POSTING about it!



#6.5 Reply by JaggedFlame on 03 Jun 2004 - 03:49 Quote this comment
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This is why I will never pay a single DOLLAR for MS software.


I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.

#6.6 Reply by Octol on 03 Jun 2004 - 03:55 Quote this comment
I'll take every bit of Microsoft software I can get for a single DOLLAR.

#6.7 Reply by anog on 03 Jun 2004 - 13:44 Quote this comment
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This is why I will never pay a single DOLLAR for MS software.

So you would be willing to pay in Euros, for instance?

#6.8 Reply by gawdflesh on 04 Jun 2004 - 00:48 Quote this comment
Where did he say anything about pirating software on Neowin?

 
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#7 Posted by rogerroger on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:15  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
I think I am going to make up a lot of semi-intelligent sentences and submit a patient. Then in court I can make it read to apply to what-ever I am suing over.

What crap from MS. The Patent office should make you spell out exactly what you are patenting. Not a lot of creative writing.

#8 Posted by sputnik on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:17  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Apple and their single click-hold will have to pay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol, so does everyone - double click

#9 Posted by aboi on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:27  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Find i'll just grant a patent for, system lockup, crashes, single clicks, triple clicks, and for every right click.

there nuff said

#10 Posted by Dazzla on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:33(2 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Holy crap, how was this granted?

 
#10.1 Reply by Mav Phoenix on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:36 Quote this comment
No kidding.

#10.2 Reply by ultima on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:36 Quote this comment
The US Patent office seems to be having a few problems in recent months

 
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#11 Posted by Veiva on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:36  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
I'm going to patent "a peice of software that controls most of an operating system", AKA kernel. THen I patent everything else...

Veiva

#12 Posted by mbrewthx on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:42(1 reply)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
I just patented the on switch......



Send me my money......................

 
#12.1 Reply by FuhrerDarqueSyde on 03 Jun 2004 - 04:04 Quote this comment
oh sorry i use Wake on Power and LAN, unless you technically mean the switching mechinism inside the mobo and power supply

 
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#13 Posted by aalaap on 03 Jun 2004 - 01:46  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
this is totally 1up on the last crazy patent i remember .. live-updating .. then amazon's use of cookies .. weeeeeird world this is getting to be.

#14 Posted by midsummerstorm on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:00  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Sad, plain sad.
I can't understand the US patents office, really. Do they really know what they are doing? How can someone patent something that's been in use for many years? I'll go see if someone patented the wheel already...

#15 Posted by Inq on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:01  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Here is some nice info about software patents:

http://webshop.ffii.org/

#16 Posted by XP_2003 on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:02(4 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
wtf! Apple used the mouse long before Microsoft did.

 
#16.1 Reply by Jason on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:04 Quote this comment
So, Microsoft patented it first

#16.2 Reply by g33kb0y on 03 Jun 2004 - 05:32 Quote this comment
And Xerox used it before Apple bought it from them. Technicalities.

#16.3 Reply by roadwarrior on 03 Jun 2004 - 06:07 Quote this comment
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So, Microsoft patented it first

Which means that as soon as Microsoft tries to sue anyone over this patent, all the defendant has to do is point to the fact that other systems used it long before Microsoft, and the patent will be voided. It's a concept known as "prior art".

#16.4 Reply by XP_2003 on 03 Jun 2004 - 20:18 Quote this comment
So what's the point in patenting it in the first place?

 
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#17 Posted by psykil on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:14(3 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
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#17.1 Reply by Kracal on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:19 Quote this comment
?

#17.2 Reply by Mav Phoenix on 03 Jun 2004 - 11:16 Quote this comment
Lame spammer.

#17.3 Reply by psykil on 03 Jun 2004 - 15:15 Quote this comment
sorry. the response to this mindblowingly stupid news could only be expressed in four letter words.

 
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#18 Posted by limok on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:16(1 reply)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
dint apple do the same silly ****e b4, dint they patent the translucent inactive window?

 
#18.1 Reply by mr_da3m0n on 03 Jun 2004 - 21:09 Quote this comment
Yeah, well have you seen the "translucient interactive windows that sinks back in background based upon the level of interactivity and then things fall through it yay look mom got no arms left" thing anywhere else...?

 
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#19 Posted by dandin1 on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:17(2 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Look, Microsoft is just trying to patent it before some dumb, retarded and unknown company does it before them and sues them for billions. I'm sure they won't sue anyone.

 
#19.1 Reply by theMaxx on 03 Jun 2004 - 03:39 Quote this comment
It should not be patented in the first place! Gee! Let's patent shoe laces, g-string, or doors lock! Cars!!! Lets patent cars!!! Oh god! Listen... lets patent WATER!!! Oh yeah!!!

#19.2 Reply by Octol on 03 Jun 2004 - 03:58 Quote this comment
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Look, Microsoft is just trying to patent it before some dumb, retarded and unknown company does it before them and sues them for billions.


True.

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It should not be patented in the first place!


Also True.

 
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#20 Posted by pctuk on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:19  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
This is a load of ****ing nonesense

#21 Posted by limok on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:22  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
the whole 4ukin world's gone bonkers over money. who gives a crap who uses double clik, next thing u know ppl gonna patent the posture u have when ure on the $hitter. damn

#22 Posted by jaffaâ„¢ on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:24(1 reply)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
hmm im going to patent something called "leaning forwards then taking a step to not fall down" -> WALKING.. it's just as useless as this doubleclick ****

 
#22.1 Reply by limok on 03 Jun 2004 - 03:08 Quote this comment
well i'm gonna challenge that one, i'm gonna patent a different way of walking - putting one leg in front of the other and whilst continuing a linear motion

 
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#23 Posted by Gary_Player on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:26(2 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! So now every time I double click I'm gonna have to pay MSnot $.01?

 
#23.1 Reply by epple on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:30 Quote this comment
Where does it say you have to pay?

#23.2 Reply by one321 on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:59 Quote this comment
Gary_Player, I think they were saying that if a program uses the double-click then the company will have to pay royalties to Microsoft or something like that. This is crap anyway.

 
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#24 Posted by paulhaskew on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:31  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
i want to patent the square and rectangle shape for monitors... everyone else can go back to using oval screens...

#25 Posted by mayamaniac on 03 Jun 2004 - 02:39  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
or patent the process of patenting

#26 Posted by NyaR on 03 Jun 2004 - 03:12  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
thats complete bs..

it willl surely screw over the development of other operating systems -
but, what if somebody finds a better way????????

#27 Posted by Dessimat0r on 03 Jun 2004 - 03:13(1 reply)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Amiga had this first.

 
#27.1 Reply by roadwarrior on 03 Jun 2004 - 06:09 Quote this comment
Nope, the Mac beat the Amiga by a year (not counting the Lisa, which was out a year before the Mac).

 
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#28 Posted by Garrett Socling on 03 Jun 2004 - 03:57  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
the patent system is completely screwed and worthless.

it is simply a system exisiting for the sole purpose of allowing corporations to abuse their power.

#29 Posted by altermind on 03 Jun 2004 - 04:20  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
if they enforce this.. they will blow chunks!

#30 Posted by Jon on 03 Jun 2004 - 04:22(1 reply)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Yey loads of whining mac users. You sure know how to make yourselfs look good =)

I'm confident that double clicking is used on the HOTAS of most modern fighter jets, I wonder how that would be delt with

 
#30.1 Reply by RMelon on 10 Jun 2004 - 09:40 Quote this comment
what is microsoft gonna do? sue the U.S. Army, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard and Navy, along with almost every modern military power that has a modern aircraft?

...probably.

 
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#31 Posted by Jelly2003 on 03 Jun 2004 - 04:34  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Actually don't tell anybody this, because its not information meant for the public arena, but I have 2 patients going through for:

the wheel "A round circular thing" - My car has 4 tyres, 1 spare tyre and a steering wheel, my mouse has a wheel in the middle of it, etc etc. Therefore since I use wheels all the time I think I rightfully own the rights to wheels.

walking "The process of moving ones legs while upright which results in the re-location of the person" - I do this a fair bit, therefore I shoudl gain the rights to this action

I could go on and on but I think you get my point. This is just stupid, why are they allowing this?


#32 Posted by brianshapiro on 03 Jun 2004 - 05:11  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
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wow

#33 Posted by +Yvo on 03 Jun 2004 - 05:37  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
boy this is sad.

just as sad when microsoft charged $300 for a mouse and Windows was included as a freebie.

#34 Posted by jeavis on 03 Jun 2004 - 05:50  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Ummmm didn't the Mac OS have double click first. I remember using a GUI and double clicking on my Mac when the PC still only had DOS ......

#35 Posted by Valkyre on 03 Jun 2004 - 06:56  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
This is the stupidist sh*t I've ever heard in my life.

#36 Posted by Sporkguy on 03 Jun 2004 - 07:10(1 reply)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Oh god, Microsoft really ARE as greedy as everybody first thought.... here's good proof of the fact

 
#36.1 Reply by YaddaMe on 03 Jun 2004 - 18:28 Quote this comment
Howso?

Like someone above posted, this really seems like more a thing that MS did to prevent the small companies who use patents to extort money from the big guys.

If the patent office is lame enough to grant such a thing, better to have it for yourself than to let someone else go after it, agreed?

 
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#37 Posted by dj_alex_m on 03 Jun 2004 - 07:39  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
I sware some of the things that are being patent'd these days are rediculous.

#38 Posted by imtoomuch on 03 Jun 2004 - 08:14  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Haha! This is great. Taking a page out of Apple's book maybe...

#39 Posted by werejag on 03 Jun 2004 - 08:45  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
maybe this is where the revolting employees of microsoft get there benefits back. by us double clicking

#40 Posted by WishX on 03 Jun 2004 - 10:00(2 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
This would never ever ever (did I mention ever?) hold up in court. When the judge goes to his chambers, the first thing he's going to do is sit down at his computer and double-click something to open something and think, "Microsoft owns a patent for this? Do they own a patent for turning a doorknob and pushing the lever to flush the toilet?" It'll never float.

Seems to me there should be some organization or governing official with a mile-long list of things you specifically can't patent, and everyone has to abide by that... and I'm not talking about the Patent Office's General Rules and Guidelines because we can all see that doesn't mean squat.

 
#40.1 Reply by VinylGroover on 03 Jun 2004 - 10:05 Quote this comment
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Seems to me there should be some organization or governing official with a mile-long list of things you specifically can't patent, and everyone has to abide by that...

Apple are putting patent's on everything, why can't MS?

#40.2 Reply by Cyranthus on 03 Jun 2004 - 22:35 Quote this comment
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When the judge goes to his chambers, the first thing he's going to do is sit down at his computer and double-click something to open something and think, "Microsoft owns a patent for this? Do they own a patent for turning a doorknob and pushing the lever to flush the toilet?" It'll never float.

either that, or bust out laughing and immedietely dismiss it...

 
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#41 Posted by MegaManXcalibur on 03 Jun 2004 - 10:10  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
By the looks of it this only applies to PDAs. Does that make this patent any less stupid? HELL NO! But I thought it needed to be pointed out (then again maybe I'm reading it wrong to).

#42 Posted by Arcadian on 03 Jun 2004 - 11:40  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Link do not work

#43 Posted by theh0g on 03 Jun 2004 - 12:52  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Doubleclick has been used before this patent. This patent is practicaly useless as any software company can prove they've used this "feature" before. Retarded US patent office, what else can I say.

#44 Posted by toastedcrumpets on 03 Jun 2004 - 13:25  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
4a.2. Member States shall ensure that computer-implemented solutions to technical problems are not considered to be patentable inventions merely because they improve efficiency in the use of resources within the data processing system.

Straight out of the Eu computer patent paper. this wouldn't hold in Europe
http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/europarl0309/

#45 Posted by raid517 on 03 Jun 2004 - 13:28  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
I think when the US patent Office see MS coming, they just bend over part their ass cheeks and invite them 'on in.

The first video I remember seeing of a prototype mouse in 1969 had a guy using the 'double click' feature, It was black and white and it sure didn't look like Windows. In fact when the mouse was first invented MS was no more than a twinkle in Bill Gate's eyes.

And what about Douglas Engelbart the guy who holds the patent on the original mouse? I'm sure he will have something to say about this. There are many instances where 'prior art' could be proved - so I can't see at all how this could be enforced.

At least this patent doesn't apply in Europe. We threw out plans to patent software - exactly because it would lead to absurdities such as this.

GJ

#46 Posted by Frank84 on 03 Jun 2004 - 14:13(2 replies)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
how far can we go below with this kind of kiddy stuff.
its a sick world..


 
#46.1 Reply by raid517 on 03 Jun 2004 - 15:45 Quote this comment
Erm... If you are looking for kiddy porn, your definately on the wrong site...

GJ

#46.2 Reply by Frank84 on 03 Jun 2004 - 18:47 Quote this comment
huh ?
dunno where i can find, btw not intrested in that kind of porn.
18 years and 18+ old is enough for me

i say it agian: its a stupid if they want a pattern about dubble clicking.
Something lower possible ?


 
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#47 Posted by Redbubble on 03 Jun 2004 - 17:53  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
Looks like the someone at the patent office was asleep at the wheel when this one was filed.
This patent is patently stupid. They have just patented a physical action. I mean any device on my computer that I tap repeated like joypads and joysticks I could not see any devices mentioned in the artical. I have a joypad that can act as a mouse. It can launch programs.
As far as this patent is concerned Microsoft can stick it where the does not shine.

#48 Posted by Randall_Lind on 03 Jun 2004 - 19:59  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
so who owns the single click patent?

#49 Posted by Grappa on 03 Jun 2004 - 20:38  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
I'll pay for my double-click when they pry it from my cold, dead fing

{NO CARRIER}



#50 Posted by Sticktron on 03 Jun 2004 - 22:04  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
If the patent office was stupid enough to issue a patent like this, how can you blame MS for snapping it up?



#51 Posted by Krome on 04 Jun 2004 - 00:13  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
This is ****en stupid.. double-click was not first founded by damn Microsoft... It was part of GEM interface as well... They ****en let idiots work in the patent office or something?

#52 Posted by Ikarus14 on 04 Jun 2004 - 02:03(1 reply)  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
they let anyone patent anything now...even human genes...
MS will most likely not sue anyone with this, they are probably just covering their asses, but still

 
#52.1 Reply by dandin1 on 04 Jun 2004 - 02:57 Quote this comment
Interesting, we were talking exactly about patenting genes in science class today.

 
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#53 Posted by wildk on 04 Jun 2004 - 13:17  Quote this comment Reply to this comment
OK How many people have just read the title and vented their spleens about how stupid microsoft are and how many actually read the linked article

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However, mouse-wielding computer users need not worry, as the patent only applies to handheld computers that run Microsoft's PocketPC software, especially the method of bringing up different features depending on how many times a button is pressed.


The article references HARDWARE Buttons on a pocket PC being used for multiple functions as stated below

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An abstract from the patent says, "A method and system are provided for extending the functionality of application buttons on a limited resource computing device. Alternative application functions are launched based on the length of time an application button is pressed.


Please think and read first



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